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  • Figured we really, really need this. I know that 90% of you are absolutely beautifully marvellous and patient people, and the other 10% are also people who are beautifully marvellous and patient 90% of the time,  but I know that certain people are going to continue to come here just to complain about the book wait, or have a bad day and want to let off some steam.  And I don't want it to bleed all through the wiki, like it has. So I'm going to make this a place where we can rant and rave and complain all that we want without disrupting cool theories or lovely discussions. 

    ... This'll also be the place where we can share what we know about book three. Questions that we really want answered, release date buzz, etc. It doesn't all need to be negative.  We're all fans here, after all. :)

    So from now on, I'm going to start deleting comments, replies, or topics that are discussing the wait time of book 3*, or are complaining about Pat himself, unless they are posted on this forum.  Deal?

    • And, yes, that will include positive comments as well, such as "Pat should take all the time he needs," etc. One doesn't need to be there without the other.
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    • I just want a proper release date to look forward to...

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    • such true... much wow... 

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    • Good Post Topic!

      I haven't looked into Rothfuss' books for some time. However, with the new Auri book out I felt it worth taking another look at the series. 



      Rothfuss is becoming Kvothe in his first semester. Highly successful, he's taken on more classes (projects) than he can actually accomplish. Rothfuss, like Martin, writes Low Fantasy. That is to say, there are elements of High Fantasy in these stories, but largely these are unintentional satirical authors. I've heard Martin's books called "Trailer Trash Wars": wars and hardships conducted through irrational and indiscriminate passion without true aim that idealizes inhumanity. Rothfuss, however, seems to idealize and simultaneously mock, youth and novelty. His heroes are villains. His villains are heroic, but tragic. The immaturity of his characters and their ignorance, for lack of perspective, of the long term consequences of their actions is what made the story so fascinating. 



      Unfortunately, Rothfuss' books have a certain momentum. They don't slowly plod along. They meander toward a foregone conclusion. It's literally like reading of someone falling on a sheet of ice. There's no surprise with the outcome. The drama and significance goes to the content of the occurrence. Simply stated, Rothfuss has had 9 years to publish a trilogy that was supposedly completed before the first book hit shelves 9 years ago (2007).



      The loyalty to this author, for many, has evaporated. Rothfuss has tried to make his books into a business. There's good reason for him to cash in on this for financial reasons. He has been highly successful. However, that success has removed him from perspective with his own image. Had he never said all three books were finished before publication began there would be far less surprise with the rate of publications. However... at this point one has to suspect the only reason for this lack of publication in all these years comes down to conflict with his business model and personal lifestyle. He has no obligation to ever publish this book. He does have an obligation to his family. 



      So, think the quiet option slowly brewing amounts fans is this: it's also right. Rothfuss has decided to step up into the G.R.R. platform. This way he can reap the long term rewards of just milking the hype about him for however so long it lasts. He avoids the inevitable complication of not publishing anything after that because it would require writing again. He's a hobbyist writer. This isn't his passion. 

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    • A while ago I found some articale saying the realese would be the summer of 2016 and god I hope it is true

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    • I could not agree more with the long post above me. There is a difference between being patient and this. This is just getting ridiculous.

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    • Go read some Brandon Sanderson, he's much better.

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    • When I first got into fantasy about 4-5 years ago I made a conscious decision not to read ASOIAF or Kingkiller until (at the very least) the date for the last book being released was in sight. I've heard a lot of hype about Kingkiller, and hope that it turns out to be as awesome as I hear it is.

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    • YoungBard wrote: When I first got into fantasy about 4-5 years ago I made a conscious decision not to read ASOIAF or Kingkiller until (at the very least) the date for the last book being released was in sight. I've heard a lot of hype about Kingkiller, and hope that it turns out to be as awesome as I hear it is.

      I hope your still alive when DoS releases lol

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    • I just want pat to give some sort of update once in a while. That way I wont need to search through the internet every 2 or 3 weeks trying to find an article that mentions anything about a possible release date. I seriously wish I hadnt read his books a few years ago... this wait is making me go crazy!

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    • I don't know if this is considered complaining? But is anyone else here dying of curiousity of the order of days in a span? Pat mentions them here and there, the most often mentioned is Felling, and I was wondering if anyone took the time to put all the mentioned days together? In order? Because Rothfuss does give us some context clues as to which day comes before so-and-so. So... am I alone in this? 

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    • 11 days in a span.

      4 spans in a month.

      8 months in a year.

      359 days in a year.

      7 days of high mourning per year.

      The days are: Luten, Shuden, Theden, Feochen, Orden, Hepten, Caenin, Felling, Reaving, Cendling, Mourning.

      The months are: Thaw, Equis, Caitelyn, Solace, Lannis, Reaping, Fallow, Dearth (then High Mourning).

      The moon's synodic period is 72 and 1/3 days.

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    • 72.44.222.238 wrote:
      11 days in a span.

      4 spans in a month.

      8 months in a year.

      359 days in a year.

      7 days of high mourning per year.

      The days are: Luten, Shuden, Theden, Feochen, Orden, Hepten, Caenin, Felling, Reaving, Cendling, Mourning.

      The months are: Thaw, Equis, Caitelyn, Solace, Lannis, Reaping, Fallow, Dearth (then High Mourning).

      The moon's synodic period is 72 and 1/3 days.

      Hey I know this is correct, but can you source it for me please?

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    • I didn't understand, is it a hint about the release date?

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    • DoS has not been released yet.

      There is no update on DoS by PR.

      Usually there is a gap of up to one year between finish and publication date.

      DoS will not be published this year.

      DoS will not be published before July 2017.

      Presumably later.

      Fuck.

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    • Has anyone offered to give the guy a hand?

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    • G-man794 wrote:
      Has anyone offered to give the guy a hand?

      Hell, I'd give him a hand job if he'd just finish it.

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    • STILL. NOTHING. I understand that charity is important but I really want him to stop blogging about goats and get back to finishing the book (god - that sounds even more heartless when typed out than it normally sounds just circulating in my brain).

      Pat Rothfuss has taught me that my once-believed 'boundless patience' does actually have very real limits.

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    • In the meantime, go read Joe Abercrombie's The first law trilogy. One hell of story people!

      (Can't wait till The doors of stone though *ugh such a long wait)

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    • I know patience is a challenge at the best of times.  I have a differing view on The Waiting:

      - The Lord of the Rings was written from 1937 to 1949 and then published all at once over a one year period from 1954-1955.  So JRR Tolkien took 12 years to write and then published in one year.  Patrick is writing incredibly complex books of stories within stories that all seemingly roll up into One in a completely different world.  THANKFULLY, he published as he went.  I would much rather have this story in my heart right now, unfinished, than not know of it while he worked away at it in complete obscurity.

      - Consider this Waiting, like waiting for fruit to ripen, wine to ferment, or Foreplay.  :)  Some things can not be rushed, nor would we want them to be...

      - Do we think an author who writes about the Heart of Stone, the Alar, the Ketan, The Amyr above the iron law for the Greater Good, dogs that bark for hours saying nothing, is not a person who also ponders deeply on the Truth of Things?  The Truth of Things takes time, quiet, a blocking out of the outside world, a balance, and a vision of the Greater Good. Sky and Sunshine! Let's give him that.

      - Lastly, I recall reading a blog from another fiction writer who expressed dismay and shock that her fans wrote asking for additional books on certain characters, or to just keep going, or... and on and on.  It's easy to forget in this age of Consumerism, where customers are right, and the masses are gathering a coherent power to speak, that just because we ask, does not mean it will be so.  Storytelling is a very old art, that ultimately comes from the heart.  It cannot be forced or cajoled, shamed or bullied.  When the story is ready and when a storyteller is compelled, then the time is Right.  Until then, go outside and Play!  :)

      With kindness and respect

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    • After finishing book 2 of the Kingkiller Chronicles and then discovering that the third book wasn't out yet I was a bit disappointed (I just recently discovered the seriers, and had no idea of the huge popularity) but,  what I am more upset about is the fact that I can't get Kvothe out of my thoughts. I love this character, I haven't had such a crush on a character since  Len Deighton's Bernard Sampson, lol.  Anyway, great books, great story telling. I am now a fan. Take the time you need Patrick Rothfuss on book 3; I know it will be well worth the wait.

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